# Further Education dataset

**URL:** <https://forum.lifbi.de/t/further-education-dataset/3737>\
**Category:** NEPS\
**Tags:** weiterbildung, spvoctrain, furthereducation\
**Created:** [12. Februar 2020 um 16:40 UTC](https://forum.lifbi.de/t/further-education-dataset/3737 "2020-02-12T16:40:22Z")\
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**Author:** ![Lisha](https://forum.lifbi.de/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/a9a28c/32.png) [@Lisha](https://forum.lifbi.de/u/Lisha)\
**Post date:** [12. Februar 2020 um 16:40 UTC](https://forum.lifbi.de/t/further-education-dataset/3737/1 "2020-02-12T16:40:23Z")

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Hello,

I have a question regarding the generated dataset Further Education. According to the data manual, instances from spVocTrain which can be classified as courses and training related to further education are included in the generated dataset „Further Education“.

Hence the Further education dataset contains a subset of the respondents contained in the spVocTrain dataset. I wanted to know if there is a variable in the spVocTrain dataset that captures this information : whether the vocational training was a part of further education or was undertaken in the normal course of education.

Thank you

Best  
Lisha

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**Author:** ![tobias.koberg](https://forum.lifbi.de/user_avatar/forum.lifbi.de/tobias.koberg/32/57_2.png) [@tobias.koberg](https://forum.lifbi.de/u/tobias.koberg)\
**Post date:** [17. Februar 2020 um 08:58 UTC](https://forum.lifbi.de/t/further-education-dataset/3737/2 "2020-02-17T08:58:38Z")

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Dear Lisha,

there is no direct variable backtracking the source of episodes in FurtherEducation generated in spVocTrain. However, I think you can reconstruct such a variable yourself. Episodes were transferred if the type of the program is a „course to obtain a license“. The following syntax illustrates this:

```auto
use SC6_FurtherEducation.dta, clear
keep if tx28200==24 // rows from spVocTrain
tempfile fe
save `fe'

use SC6_spVocTrain.dta, clear
keep if subspell==0
keep if ts15291_g12==2 | ts15201==14 | ts15201_v1==13
merge 1:1 ID_t splink using `fe' // all cases match

```

Does this help?  
Tobias

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**Author:** ![Lisha](https://forum.lifbi.de/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/a9a28c/32.png) [@Lisha](https://forum.lifbi.de/u/Lisha)\
**Post date:** [3. März 2020 um 14:30 UTC](https://forum.lifbi.de/t/further-education-dataset/3737/3 "2020-03-03T14:30:34Z")

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Hello Tobias,

Thank you. However I am trying to understand the reason behind this kind of filtering for the Further Education. According to the condtition you mentioned

> [@tobias.koberg](#):
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> keep if ts15291\_g12==2 | ts15201==14 | ts15201\_v1==13

I understand that people who undertook course for the license are included. However I dont understand why you included also ts15291\_g12==2 ?

Also, I am trying to look at people who took a Voctrain course as a part of further training, which means courses undertaken after initial schooling regardless if they were to obtain a license or not. I use the following syntax

```
//Preparing spVocTrain
neps, language(en) : use "spVocTrain", clear
keep if subspell==0
fre ts15201 ts15201_v1
recode ts15201 (.m=.m "Missing by design") (.b=.b "Don't know") (.c=.c "Refused") (1=1 "Dual training") (2/8 12=2 "School-based (full-time) training") /// 
 (9=3 "University of applied sciences") (10/11 15/16=4 "University") ///
 (13/14=5 "Further education") (17=6 "Another kind of training program"), gen(traintype)

recode ts15201_v1 (.m=.m "Missing by design") (.b=.b "Don't know") (.c=.c "Refused") (1=1 "Dual training") (2/5 11=2 "School-based (full-time) training") /// 
 (6=3 "University of applied sciences") (7/10=4 "University") ///
 (12/14=5 "Further education"), gen(traintype2)  
replace traintype = traintype2 if traintype2!=.m
lab var traintype "Type of post-school education"
keep if traintype==5 //only keeping instances of further education
save 'furthertraining'

```

Is this categorization for different type of training correct?

Thanks in advance  
Lisha

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**Author:** ![tobias.koberg](https://forum.lifbi.de/user_avatar/forum.lifbi.de/tobias.koberg/32/57_2.png) [@tobias.koberg](https://forum.lifbi.de/u/tobias.koberg)\
**Post date:** [4. März 2020 um 09:45 UTC](https://forum.lifbi.de/t/further-education-dataset/3737/4 "2020-03-04T09:45:36Z")

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Dear Lisha,

sorry, I haven’t been precise in my comment above:

> [@tobias.koberg](#):
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> Episodes were transferred if the type of the program is a „course to obtain a license“.

Actually, FurtherEducation was constructed to contain all courses. Courses in spVocTrain are defined either if the type of the program is a „course to obtain a license“ (ts15201==14, ts15201\_v1==13), or the vocational training was identified as a course during coding of the open-ended content variable (ts15291\_g12==2). It then also has an entry in ts15291\_g13 in most cases, so you can derive the kind of the course out of it.

I cannot help you with your second question, as this mainly depends on your setting/theory.

Kind regards,  
Tobias